When somebody is using their phone and you’re physically with them, they’re at the dinner table with you, and yet when you talk to them, they hear nothing, because they’ve transported themselves through the glowing rectangle into a digital space. And it doesn’t have to be three dimensional, maybe they’re scrolling media, maybe that they’re in a text world, but like they have transported themselves. So we’ve always had this internally, at least me and Mark, this very expansive construct of the metaverse as this digital, physical construct.















